Today we worked on more nosework (no video, camera died), did flirt pole work with Sei and Perrin did some more fitness work (Sei got to try a bit too):
Today we worked on more nosework (no video, camera died), did flirt pole work with Sei and Perrin did some more fitness work (Sei got to try a bit too):
More nosework and a title submission today!
I finally got all of Perrin’s novice parkour videos sorted, edited and uploaded today. We had everything, so I decided to submit it! I will find out in a month if he passed. One thing I learned is that I clearly have an issue with interpretation. For every video, I wanted to ask for about 100 clarifications of the rules to ensure the video met them (they are a little bit vague on the website). I figured that doing that wasn’t really necessary, and I could likely assume that if I was following the rules in good faith (and I did pick through each video to make sure there were no rule violations and that the requirements were met), then the judges are reasonable people who are not out to nit-pick people in to failing. Ah, programming I am still trying to undo from many years of school. I put all the videos together into one for ease of watching purposes:
We also did another few sessions of nosework today. Sei is definitely getting the game, so we moved on to the second game (putting the tin on the ground) and took the game to different parts of the house and even the yard! I added a cold tin by the end of the day, and did a quick session like that. He did really well. Its the first time I have seen him think about a problem on his own when he didn’t get clicked and keep going instead of stopping and staring at me. I’m hoping this will be a good confidence builder for him training/shaping wise.
Perrin continues to be really solid, not moving away from the odour. I added a cold tin, and he resumed his bad habit of picking up the cold tin and carrying it with him until he finds the hot tin. He gets the game, so I will likely move to putting the tins in containers soon (then I will only have to deal with him stepping on them!).
Today Perrin got to play with the new Toto Fit Infinity that we won! It arrived today and I promptly got it filled and figured out a way to stabilize it with the things I had. (Shhh, I will put the living room back to the way it was before my husband sees!)
He loves this stuff so much. Cute boy!
We also started working on nosework. This is completely new to Sei and the method is new for Perrin, however Perrin has been taught this before another way. I decided to try the exercise from the sample lecture of the FDSA NW101 course (which I am hoping to take in the October session if finances allow). The gist of this exercise is to have odour in one hand and food in the other, C/T when the dog shows interest in the odour, then feed at source. This sounds very simple, but I had several mechanical issues while trying to execute this.
These mistakes and more can all be found in both dog’s videos, but are more obvious in Sei’s because Perrin understands the game, and is confident to keep pressing forwards so covers my mistakes. (Also he is bigger, so I had less issue holding the odour too high to feed him at).
Perrin clearly remembered what wintergreen is! I don’t think he made one mistake the whole time. He can step up to the next level next time we try.
This was Sei’s first try at anything like this. The first time I made all of the above mistakes, but the one that hindered us the most was me sitting still. I added some more motion the second time we tried, and he rocked it! We will keep going with this exercise for a few more days at least and see where we get with that.
There is a semi-local ORT test in early November, and I’m thinking I may enter Sei and see how he does. I am even more uncertain about Perrin, because I also want to submit his Novice Parkour videos and I really only have the budget to do one. We will see what I decide.
Beyond that we also continued working on spins with both dogs, toys with Sei, as well as him catching food out of the air. But that last one is mainly because it amuses me 😛
Today was a play skills kind of day! And Sei even caught his first piece of thrown food today. Woohoo!
Today we started working on the homework material for Toys- Building Cooperation and Play homework. I took a baseline of his one-ball retrieve:
And worked on the Two Ball Game for the first time actually following the damn instructions (oops):
I thought about half way through that he looked like he had to pee. When he checks out of playing, I have noticed that most of the time he is checking out to relieve himself. So I tried waiting a minute, then he didn’t pee so I continued. The first thing he did when we finished and I walked over to stop the camera? Peed where he stood. Yup, should have listened to my instincts.
Other than that, I am very happy with how he did with this! It is light years ahead of where we left it about a month ago. He is also really starting to know what my marker word ‘chase’ means; a few times after I say it, he runs out ahead of the ball, expecting it to be thrown.
I picked up some lotus balls when I was in the states to bring Sei home, and I still hadn’t tried them with Perrin! They are a soft ball that has three ‘petals’ that velcro together, and a pocket inside that holds a piece of food. Some dogs open them on their own, and other dogs bring the ball back to the handler to be opened. I was curious to see which one Perrin would be!
So we went out to the yard with the lotus ball and a baggie of meatloaf pieces and tried it out. Turns out that Perrin is a retriever! He LOVED it, and it took him about 2 throws to be immediately turning back to bring me the ball, rather than rolling it around with his nose trying to see if anything would fall out of it. We went until I ran out of meatloaf, and Perrin was still happy to keep going. This is going to be a great tool!
Unfortunately I don’t have video of this, because my camera died.
We had a ‘life skills’ training highlight today! Sei was unsure of big dogs barking in his basic obedience class. So every time that Perrin barks at home, I mark it and we run to the fridge to get a cookie. Today, I was sitting inside at the table watching Sei sniff around the back yard when Perrin started barking at the garbage truck at the other end of the house. Sei perked right up, focused on me, and bolted to me. We had a party and went to the fridge to get cookies. (And Perrin quit barking and came and joined us). Awesome!
In line with the goals I wrote about yesterday, here is my first step towards them:
I went back into my FDSA library, and pulled up the shaping lectures. I started right back at the begining with just clicking for any motion that was no sitting and staring at me.
This was my plan:
Here is the unedited video of our progress on that today:
Wow, that was really hard! Sei is not obvious about when he is done chewing and I have a hard time watching ‘all’ of him for the next movement. And he is so little and fast! Lots of improvement to be made on my end here.
Today I went though our parkour footage and identified behaviours I had no footage of at all. For today that was ‘In’ and a sequence with three obstacles.
He looks so happy! My sweet puff. Tomorrow I will see what manoeuvres I have recorded, but may need to be re-done.
The August term of Fenzi classes ended yesterday. Taking two golds, two in person classes, and a bronze, all while starting back at university left me little time to document here too. I’m finding I am a little burnt out! So I decided that for the October session, I am going to take my first semester off since I found FDSA. I figure with over 25 courses in my library, I can find something to work on.
This was hard. There are so many classes we could work on right now. Get Focused, Relationship Building Through Play, Engagement, Shaping, Toys – Developing Cooperation and Play, Empowerment, Co-op Care, Baby Genius (because it kind of slipped off the radar in August. Oops), Obedience Starter Games, so many choices! To narrow it down, I decided to choose one from each of these categories:
This let me narrow it down to
I may sneak some quick nose work fundamentals in there too, because I have a sneaking suspicion that Sei will enjoy it. I wanted to run through the whole course, but we have more pressing things to be working on.
Perrin’s interest in training sky rocketed once he was no longer the only dog in the house. He has been a little short changed lately with the puppy, so I want to get some plans going for him as well. I have just finished up the last class portion of the Canine Fitness Trainer program, and need to start on my case studies. Perrin has a lot of ‘in the works’ things: I would like to finish up his novice parkour title, get started on his cyber rally and cyber freestyle skills and videos, start shaping the last few tricks for his master trick dog title, start filming his TEAM 1 videos, as well as make some progress on cooperative care skills. Looking at what is likely to happen between now and the middle of November, as well as what is the most pressing, I decided on:
I have goals, whoohoo! Now to make a schedule and a plan…
Sei had his second class today! Basic pet obedience.
This one went MUCH better than Friday’s class. The instructor was solid, the instruction was reasonable, and the class was well managed.
Sei started out a little overwhelmed at all the barking when class started, but quickly settled in and stayed engaged with me pretty much the whole class. I was shocked! Perrin wouldn’t have stayed engaged that consistently for that duration, and he has a lot more practice and maturity on him. I certainly wasn’t expecting it from Sei! I was able to find a place near a back exit, so we could run outside if things got too overwhelming for him (we only needed one pee break exit!). Sei was able to play tug with me at appropriate moments, and was able to take food the whole time. He just laid down and chilled out with me, practiced hand touches or worked on following my finger while we waited between exercises. He worked interchangeably for kibble, liver, peanut butter and chicken/cream cheese puree, although he did make it clear that the pb was his favourite.
The dogs barking continued to make him unsure when it happened, so we I worked on pairing a dog barking with an enormous amount of peanut butter. This is something I can work on at home, as Perrin sometimes alert barks when the neighbours’ dogs get going.
He met a few new people, which he enjoyed, and another puppy who was quite over the top. I got backed into a corner by them and had to wait a moment to make my exit. Sei completely ignored the crazy puppy at first, then when it calmed down, he initiated a VERY adult greeting. Again, shocked. When the room filled up with people waiting for our class, the energy level came way, way up (lots of dogs barking, whining, screaming and jumping around) and Sei got a bit over aroused (play bowing and barking at another puppy). He was able to quickly come back down again when we got some distance from the other dogs.
I do wish that the training building had a better entry set up. There is quite the bottle neck from the door to the waiting room, with several blind corners. I just picked Sei up and walked him in to avoid any unpleasant surprises coming around corners, and that worked for me (I got flack from someone about it, but whatever. Not their dog). Next time I will wait until class is just about to start to go in. There isn’t any downside to being a minute or two late, but lots of downside to getting trapped in a corner with a bunch of highly aroused dogs who may or may not be reactive.
Sei and I have been working on free stacks in an ultra casual way since he came home. They have not been something we are making much progress on. At first, I was getting a LOT of sitting (really the only thing that had a reinforcement history at the time). I quit working on them for a while, and moved onto other things, one of which was learning how to effectively lure, for other classes.
Both the original way I learned free stacking, and the method taught in the local class we are taking are fairly similar in practice. Hold food out in front of the dog’s nose, quickly take it a short distance from their face, and reward stillness. Well, this was very contradictory to all of the work I had JUST done on teaching Sei to drive into a lure. I could see that it was really confusing to him: “Before I was getting rewarded for driving into your hand with food in it, but now that isn’t working and I can’t see any difference in what we are doing, so why don’t you want the same thing?” To make matters worse, I realized I was using the food to lure Sei to a stand when he sat, and then expected him to leave it alone the next second once he was standing. Not good.
I tried changing how I held the food: if I hold my hand like THIS, drive into it; if I hold my hand like THAT, stay away from it. Turns out, I am not consistent enough to do this in daily training. I may need to simply lure him away from something in day to day life (say, an oven mitt on the floor), and in that split second moment, I have no idea what I am doing with my hand.
This was starting to frustrate me. Why can’t I follow these simple steps that work for many people who follow this method, and get the same results? And I realized I was asking the wrong question.
How would I teach this behaviour (at this stage, it is really just a stand stay) if I didn’t know how it was typically taught? What methods work best for me? For Sei?
For the last two questions, I can unequivocally take anything that resembles luring off of the table. One of my biggest issues with luring is that I can’t seem to split behaviours when I lure. Not sure why, other people have no problems with it, but somewhere in my brain “theory does not compute!” And that is definitely going on here. Things I am currently lumping together:
Okay, thats definitely a problem!
So, here is a guess at a training plan to maximize shaping and clarity. We will see how it works:
ETA 1: I have just taken the food out of my gesture hand, and this has already made a huge difference in Sei’s frustration levels. Whoohoo! We will see how the rest goes.
ETA 2: I think we are getting somewhere! It is still a baby behaviour, but the frustration level is way way down (the most important thing), and I am starting to get some standings still.
I love it when thinking through the problem and analyzing it from a different angle gets me where I was hoping!
Today was Sei’s first live in-person class! We are taking a conformation handling class (tonight) and will start a basic pet obedience class next week.
Lots of things were learned on my end tonight, although few of them focused on conformation.
Sei did amazing! He struggled with the environment at first (new facility, first class setting, first time being around strange dogs he can’t meet, loud barking from the next room over, funny floors, etc), but he quickly bounced back. He focused on me, took food, played with me and even eventually played with a toy (or a strip of muskrat fur, if you can actually call that a ‘toy’). I thought that it was interesting that he was able to play with me (bouncing around, running, chasing me) before he could play with a toy. I knew that when he started trying to chew on my leg that he was ready for the toy! He walked super well on his harness, peed in a new place, and sniffed a few new dogs.
The facility we are going to is marketed as being +R, and the info session I went to yesterday for the basic obedience class (with a different instructor), supported that claim. The instructor tonight however, could be best described as balanced. Things I was told that made me cringe:
Lest I only be a Negative Nancy, I did appreciate how the instructor handled the ‘inspection’ part of the class with Sei. Sei was clearly not going to be happy having her looming over him and touching him. Before I had to say anything, she suggested having her just stand near him and have me feed him cookies, then decreasing her distance over the next few classes. We were all happy with that solution.
Things I did well tonight:
Things I need to work on for next time:
In hind sight, I wish I had rented ring space at this facility (if they offer it, I don’t actually know), so that Sei could have been familiar with the space and its noises and sights before adding other dogs and people. I think that would have made things easier for him.
Sei rocked all my expectations tonight. He is such a cool guy. I just want to cuddle him now ❤
Things have been very busy lately, and I have been recording most of our work though our Fenzi homework. I figured I would make some notes for today before going off line again for a while (I am prepping to paint much of the house, thats going to be fun with two dogs!). I am also falling behind on the puppy genius homework with the two gold classes, and in life training. Gah. Got to catch up!
Fitness Trainer Homework:
Some of the videos are shared with Perrin’s heeling.
Sei’s Crucial Concepts Homework for the past few days:
I really, really hate luring. So that is what we are working on in this course right now. So far, we are struggling with tuck sits. I debated on whether or not to go down that rabbit hole, because tuck sits are a real challenge for Sei right now, and I don’t want to spend the entire rest of the course on them if we can’t get them worked out in the next few days (few things ever get worked out in a a matter of days). We will see how it goes. These are our progress so far, with my notes.
I struggle with luring quite a bit, and find it very frustrating. It seems to me like a strange thing to struggle with as much as I do because it should be intuitive. With my older dog, I shape pretty much everything and have so far followed this with Sei.
I find it difficult to make sure I am doing the right thing with the lure, observe what the dog is doing, adjust myself accordingly (which I often don’t know how to do, how my hand motion relates to the dog’s motion is not always obvious to me beyond the obvious ones like spins), see when criteria is met, AND get my markers and timing correct.
I took video of luring attempts of roll over, tuck sits and spins, all of which are completely new berhaviours for Sei. I made progress with the roll overs, and spins, but tuck sits were not as successful. The above video of tuck sits are a good example of the issues I tend to have when luring.
I had several problems here:
I just experimented with how the lure placement/path effects behaviour: Can he follow the lure instead of sitting and waiting for the cookie (a very reinforced behaviour)? What happens if I move my hand up/down/sideways when Sei is standing? Sitting? Down? Moving? That sort of thing. No markers, lots of cookies.
I definitely have an issues splitting and setting criteria with luring. I’m not sure why. I don’t have those problems when shaping. It is definitely going to take some practice for me to get the hang of the multi tasking for luring, and to find how it is easiest to see the dog’s motions when I am so up close. Especially with Sei being so much smaller than what I am used to working with.
Whoohoo! Unexpected tuck sits! I was intending to video footage for Baby Genius with the whipped cream, but I started getting repeated tuck sits. Bonus! No subtlety in the lure with that can, but it certainly made it easier to reward for a longer time in position.
I’ve been doing trials with different treats for the lure, and what I am using makes a big difference. I think it must be my mechanics that is doing it with each for it to be so consistent across different foods, but I’m not sure. Discrete bits of food (kibble, hot dogs, cheese) yielded poorer results than something lickable that I could smear on my hand, then open my fist to reward (PB, cream cheese, jam). This video highlights the difference.
After many attempts, here is where we eventually got to with the mixed treat method. PB for the lure, and kibble for the reset. My ‘get it’ marker needs to be cleaned up here for sure, I am moving my arm before I finish the marker. (Sorry about the background noise, my husband was wildly happy about whatever trick my older dog was doing with him upstairs, but this was by far the most suitable clip).